A Bizarre Experience I Had With Apple Juice

Many years ago I had a very unusual experience involving apple juice. The very first cleanse I ever did was actually Robert Gray's Holistic Horizons program. I followed the instructions exactly, but it was very disappointing — I didn't eliminate any mucoid plaque. However, I would go on to discover later that if I move up the levels faster than Robert Gray recommends, I could eliminate substantial chunks of mucoid plaque in a similar harsh manner as Richard Anderson's program. But for now I had to wait a few months (Robert Gray says that his herbs will become ineffective if you take them for too long at a time). So I looked for a non-herbal based cleanser to take in the meantime.

I found something. It was in a small book called "Dr. Christopher's Three-Day Cleansing Program, Mucusless Diet and Herbal Combinations". In his book Dr. Christopher described a three day fast involving ingesting nothing but apple juice, prune juice, and a little olive oil throughout the day.

Being the minimalist that I am, I quickly did away with the prune juice, olive oil, and fasting. In the morning, on an empty stomach, I would drink one glass of pasteurized organic bottled apple juice. That's it. I didn't ingest any prune juice or olive oil. And I didn't fast either. Actually, I fasted in the morning, but I ate a strict mucusless diet for lunch and dinner. In the morning, when I drank the apple juice, something truly bizarre would happened. A couple of minutes after drinking it, I experienced an extreme chronic pain in my abdomen. It was very intense; it was the same type of pain as being kicked in the gonads. It would last a few minutes then go away. Immediately after it went away, I would have an urge to have a bowel movement. While on the toilet, I evacuated massive amounts of amber globs. It came out as pure globs, unmixed with any feces. Here is a picture I took of one of these evacuations:
Just so that you understand the scale, it is within a large round plastic container about a foot diameter — these globs were massive. It is the only photo I took of it. It is some of the later globs. As I recall, the earlier globs looked just like this but were a lighter gold color amber.

Anyway, this would occur every two or three days for a couple months. Every two or three days I drank one small glass of apple juice, it caused intense pain, and massive amounts of amber globs came out. After a couple months it no longer occurred and my severe chilliness, my heart irregularities/palpitations, my complete inability to have a bowel movement without having to take a suppository, as well as some other problems all miraculously went away and never came back.

It looks like Richard Anderson had a similar experience as I did — on page 86 of his book Cleanse & Purify Thyself Book One he said that during the first two cleanses it is common to see "amber or dark green, jelly-like goop" come out. He thought this stuff was "lymph". I think he got this idea from Dr. Christopher and Robert Gray. On page 5 of his book, Dr. Christopher said that his apple juice cleanse will break up mucus, or "catarrh" as he also called it, resulting in approximately three gallons of "toxic lymph" being eliminated. On page 23 of his book The Colon Health Handbook Robert Gray expanded upon this idea of a toxic lymph. He said that during fasting, body cells throw off "toxins", which are forced into the lymph where a mucoid substance (catarrh) is formed to hold them in suspension.

Dr. Christopher and Robert Gray are confused about human anatomy — the lymphatic system doesn't have a mucous membrane, thus it can't possibly produce mucus or catarrh. Robert Gray spoke of a lymph drain massage originating from ancient China that causes mucus from the lungs to drain into the intestines via the lymphatic system. But I had no chest congestion, and it is absurd to think that these massive globs could possibly fit inside anybody's lungs. It had to have originated from my gastrointestinal tract — remember, that's where I had my pain, and the gastrointestinal tract has a mucous membrane. During mucosal inflammation, exudate leaches from blood vessels located in the lamina propria and mixes in with the adherent mucus layer. That's what catarrh is; it's a mixture of mucus and exudate.

Albumin is the predominant component of exudate and has an amber color. I've been looking at bottles of albumin — some have a gold color, and some have an orange color. This is precisely the color of the globs I eliminated — the earlier globs (which I didn't take a picture of) were a gold color, and the later globs were a light to dark orange color. Experiments have shown that when albumin mixes in with mucus, it forms mucin-albumin complexes that is dramatically more viscous than mucus or albumin alone. As you might recall, Arnold Ehret, in his book Mucusless Diet Healing System, spoke alot about mucus and albumin (he used the word "albumen"). This is because his doctor diagnosed him as having Bright's disease with excess mucus and albumin in his urine. Arnold Ehret discovered that fasting on fruit dissolved and eliminated it — he thought it was either the sugar or acid in the fruit that was responsible for this effect.

The reason I gave this story to you in the context of having had taken Robert Gray's formula is because I'm thinking that his formula may have loosened up the mucoid cap allowing the apple juice to do what it did. I don't know. Maybe not. Whatever the case may be, I diagnosed myself as having systemic candidiasis — some people think that yellow or brown mucus in the stool can be a symptom of it. At this point in time, I take apple juice with the N-Acetyl Cysteine because I notice that, at rare times, the apple juice causes the same pain in the abdomen, except that it is very, very mild. It only does this when I take a "real" cleanser like NAC along with it. The apple juice just seems to give it a little extra kick sometimes.



  1. Hey this is Rob, I emailed you before.

    When I had success with getting rid of mucoid that one time(that picture I emailed you where it was all red) I clearly remember having bad stomach cramps earlier in the day. There must be a connection there.
    I'm going to try this apple juice fast.
    I'm still having the problem of my bowels completely shutting down whenever I try any sort of mucoid cleanse though, it's my main problem.

  2. That happened to me as well for years. Even a low dose caused horrible constipation. Not until I eliminated massive amounts of mucoid plaque over the years did it finally go away. It was EXTREMELY difficult and long and frustrating for me to do. I can now take the highest level of Robert Gray's and Richard Anderson's formula for a long time without any constipation whatsoever. I don't have any easy answer for it.

  3. Rob here again.
    I read in your first article that proteinase producing bacteria normally is what breaks down mucoid plaque in healthy people. Could it be that people who have problems with mucoid plaque don't have these bacteria in their guts as a result of antibiotic use or something?
    Have you tried taking some of these bacteria as a probiotic to see if it helps with mucoid plaque?
    Bacillus subtilis is a major proteinase producing bacteria used in industry and it's available as a supplement online.
    I'm going to buy this stuff and ferment it using almond milk and corn sugar and take it in large quantities to see if it does anything.

    1. How about no. Don't go ingesting any fucking fermentation experiments. Proteinase is a hazardous material sold at industrial supply stores. Stick with generally recognized as safe supplements or herbs from reputable manufacturers taken at recommended doses and intervals.

    2. Okay well, I have fermented probiotic strains like Mutaflor and L. Reuteri in the past and they have helped my health issues. Bacillus subtilis is a probiotic sold in health food stores and it wouldn't hurt to ferment it and try it I don't think. I'm not talking about ingesting random chemicals I found online or anything.

  4. Thanks for all your good content. I see you have mentioned both Robert Gray and Richard Anderson's cleanses. I am leaning towards the Robert Gray program for several reasons. I heard more about the program, appears to be easier to perform, and cheaper in price. In your opinion, would you say they are equal in getting results? If you had to pick, which would you prefer?

    1. I would try both. Richard Anderson took a different herbal approach, and he claims his cleanse is more powerful than Robert Gray's cleanse. But if I had to pick one, I would pick Robert Gray's. It's cheaper, more minimalistic, and he gives a detailed explanation for how it works. Note that I wasn't able to get Robert Gray's cleanse to work unless I move up the levels faster than recommended. This would cause constipation and horrible cleansing reaction; at which point I would stop it and give myself enemas until a piece of mucoid plaque came out. Robert Gray claims that his formula causes no cleansing reactions and that you don't need to give yourself enemas. Both I and Richard Anderson think this is absolutely not true.